9 years, 6 months ago
Ok so I found the Fox Kids version of the Cybersix intro at https://www.retrojunk.com/content/child/intro/page/4232/cybersix#/content/child/intro/1218/show

Problem is, it has the Retrojunk logo. This is the point I would normally hop on over to Youtube and watch it there, unedited, but it doesn't work with this intro, because it seems Retrojunk is the ONLY website on the entire internet that has this cartoon's Fox Kids intro. The other intro (the much longer running one that was used internationally) can be found on Youtube without the Retrojunk logo, and there's multiple copies of it that have been uploaded to Youtube. It appears that the Fox Kids version is the rare one, rather than the international version. I'm looking for a clean intro (no watermarks) copy of the Fox Kids version opening, but can't find it. So website designers at RJ, please please please post up the pre-edited copy of this video here. I know your server computer probably has the pre-edited raw copy somewhere on its harddrive, so please do me a favor and manually post the pre-edited copy of the video file on the the webpage.

I know you like to lay claim to every video that gets uploaded to your site, but you have a very special place in entertainment history, archiving all the old TV show intros, and for the purposes of keeping a historical archive, it is best to keep the videos in their original form, or part of animation history could be forever lost to history, leaving only a watermark-scarred copy of the video in its place. I mean the National Archives in Washington DC doesn't put a stamp in the lower right corner of the Declaration of Independance that says "National Archives" on it. It is left UNTOUCHED as part of American history. And you don't see a stamp in the lower right corner of the Mona Lisa that says "Louvre Museum" on it. Same thing with any animation videos that are part of an art archive, because believe it or not, animation and cinema are indeed ARTWORK. And as the moment time that they were created moves into the past, the artwork becomes a part of ART HISTORY, and should be indefinitely archived for future generations to see, in its most unaltered original form.
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    9 years, 6 months ago
    I hate to break it to you, but you're about 5 years too late to ask anything of this site's "designers". It's just flailing unattended in the winds of the web my friend.
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      thecrow174
      9986 Posts
      9 years, 6 months ago
      If you're expecting the logo to be taken off, it's not going to happen.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpmILPAcRQo

      Come have the time of YOUR life with me and the gang at Retro-daze.org.
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        stake_n_sheak
        1891 Posts
        9 years, 6 months ago
        This is not the National Archives. Burger King commercials are not Guernica. What do you need a clean intro (no watermarks) copy for?
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          vkimo
          2321 Posts
          9 years, 5 months ago
          RJ deserves to plaster its watermark over the video. A lot of hard work went into getting all this crap online. Thank goodness Vertex had the foresight to put watermarks on them before Youtube came and stole them all!
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            ragengauge
            6 Posts
            4 months, 30 days ago
            vkimo
            RJ deserves to plaster its watermark over the video. A lot of hard work went into getting all this crap online. Thank goodness Vertex had the foresight to put watermarks on them before Youtube came and stole them all!

            Highly disagree. While I appreciate the effort, what's the point on backing these up if it's not in it's original form? As someone who makes tv channels, I don't want watermarks on commercials. Frankly, if youtubers download and reupload, that's good. It's prevents these things from becoming lost as more copies of them exist elsewhere. Otherwise, when this site goes down, all we have left of the efforts is a bunch of tainted media with no way to get the originals.
              ragengauge
              6 Posts
              4 months, 30 days ago
              stake_n_sheak
              This is not the National Archives. Burger King commercials are not Guernica. What do you need a clean intro (no watermarks) copy for?

              Then why save them at all? Who cares if it's not... I assume Guernica is art? I have no idea. But I believe that commercials deserve being backed up, and in their original untainted form. Hell, there's been a rise in people making old tv channels using these, and having watermarks on these commercials ruins the feel of the original broadcast style. You want to add a card at the end? Sure. I can respect that, and would be more than willing to do the work to trim it for something like a tv channel. But really, retrojunk, while the effort was made to back it up, does not own this, and is ruining the efforts of archival of commercials by adding a watermark. Imagine if pre-code hollywood videos were found and dumped online, only to have a watermark? This is no different. If nothing else, a copy of the original should be shared on something like Internet Archive. I respect the effort that went into all this, I really do, but it's all pointless if you're going to make it so the backed up version of the video has a watrermark. Part of archival of these is the ability for others to download the backed up video for themselves (data hoarders do exist with large personal libraries of stuff as a backup) and upload it to places like youtube so it can be spread and not become lost.
                ragengauge
                6 Posts
                4 months, 30 days ago
                Ghost_of_Vapor
                I hate to break it to you, but you're about 5 years too late to ask anything of this site's "designers". It's just flailing unattended in the winds of the web my friend.

                Damn. That sucks. However, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Short sighted watermarks. Now the site is unattended and the only version of the cybersix fox kid's intro is the one with this watermark. This is EXACTLY what I'm complaining about.
                  DH200
                  4 Posts
                  4 months ago
                  yeeaah.. I don't think that's gonna happen dude..
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